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[Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-06 16:28
by Uptorn
Do you have any devices to which you've wanted to install Debian, but could not for reasons technical or otherwise?

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-06 16:46
by manyroads
It only works on computers for me... my car, tractor, television are all poor locations for Debian to operate... :lol:

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-06 18:21
by CwF
manyroads wrote: 2024-11-06 16:46 my car, tractor, television are all poor locations for Debian to operate..
Interesting

I've built some double din systems for vehicles. I do have a Debian hypervisor running XP with EFILive (OBD2) on a Q67 mini-itx for my Duramax LBZ...and will migrate to 3.5 sbc when it works.

I installed a few gps LIDAR systems in snowcats that run on linux, not FOSS, but could be...

My tv does run Debian and works way better than any smart TV. The last day of tv use has had the gpu clocking up to 950MHz(typically 300) to watch all the talking heads at once, revising their hubris.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-06 18:30
by ftb
Ich habe einige Notebooks. Mit Debian gab es nie Probleme es auf den Laptop oder auch dem Desktop zu installieren.
Anders bei Arch-basierten Systemen. Viele ließen sich nicht installieren.
Aber mal eine Frage am Rande: Linux soll ja auch bei der Raumfahrt eingesetzt werden. Weiß jemand, welche Distribution da verwendet wird? Vielleicht auch Debian.

englische Übersetzung:
I have several notebooks. With Debian there were never any problems installing it on the laptop or desktop.
Not so with Arch-based systems. Many could not be installed.
But a question in passing: Linux is also to be used in space travel. Does anyone know which distribution is used there? Perhaps also Debian.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-06 19:06
by wizard10000
I've heard the International Space Station runs Debian.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-17 04:49
by friendlysalmon88
I've ran into issues installing Debian on machines with early variations of the modern day UEFI secure boot system.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-17 13:00
by wizard10000
I had a couple of cheap Bay Trail tablets, 64-bit processor and 32-bit EFI. Dude who calls themself linuxium used to respin Ubuntu images to support the hardware although I never did get sound working and Linux on tablets in 2016 was a bit of a work in progress. TBH I never did try to install Debian on them as that would have been a ton of work but I hear Debian's multiarch image supports them now - at least for the most part.

Anyway, here's linuxium's blog which is pretty interesting if you're into stuff like that. https://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos/run ... il-devices

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2024-11-18 03:03
by Uptorn
One of my computers was a PowerPC laptop for a brief time which had an old 32 bit single core PowerPC CPU. I received the device months before EOL for Debian Jessie. Jessie also happens to be the last Debian release to support 32 bit PowerPC. It was a short run. Old Apple G-something, I hardly knew ye.

Another one of my computers has been a trusty old netbook bearing an Intel Atom CPU. Stretch worked okay, but any newer Debian release fails to boot (reliably) on the device. I've tried everything I could muster. It still gets some use today, but grows increasingly unusable as various software fall to bit rot. For example, it cannot read LUKS2 encrypted USB devices. Firefox have also recently announced that the certs for that old version of Firefox will soon be sunsetted (not that I take it on the web these days, unless I'm desperate).

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2025-01-15 20:30
by happydog500
20 years a go, I had a my TV set up to record TV shows and play them on my TV. I wanted to run Debian on the other side of a duel boot, but no matter what, we couldn't get it to run on both monitors.
xrander didn't work. nothing.

I would of been running Debian 20 years a go if I could of got it to work.

Here is a 8 minute video link to my set up. Man I was young back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmkstMD84Y

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2025-01-16 01:46
by Uptorn
happydog500 wrote: 2025-01-15 20:30 20 years a go, I had a my TV set up to record TV shows and play them on my TV. I wanted to run Debian on the other side of a duel boot, but no matter what, we couldn't get it to run on both monitors.
xrander didn't work. nothing.

I would of been running Debian 20 years a go if I could of got it to work.

Here is a 8 minute video link to my set up. Man I was young back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmkstMD84Y
"Gates had wondered why people aren't watching television over the internet yet"

Where you had demonstrated literal broadcast television on your computer, I very much wonder if he had meant ~ why hasn't information dissemination moved primarily to the internet yet?

And today, that dream (or nightmare) has been fully realized with the likes of youtube, tiktok and all the streaming services occupying people's minds.

My setup looked very much like yours back in 2008.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2025-01-16 02:59
by CwF
Long before then we could get textual streams embedded in the 'blank' of analogue broadcast. The stream was not the subs, but an independent ‘ticker’. We could get a copy of the newspaper! The first such hardware tuners were on ISA and MCA cards! ATI All-in-Wonder's were out by the mid-late 90's and could also pull out this stream. Don't forget W95 was released complete without a browser. MS was certainly late to the party.

Re: [Discussion] Where have you been unable to run Debian?

Posted: 2025-01-16 14:01
by arzgi
CwF wrote: 2025-01-16 02:59 Long before then we could get textual streams embedded in the 'blank' of analogue broadcast. The stream was not the subs, but an independent ‘ticker’. We could get a copy of the newspaper! The first such hardware tuners were on ISA and MCA cards! ATI All-in-Wonder's were out by the mid-late 90's and could also pull out this stream. Don't forget W95 was released complete without a browser. MS was certainly late to the party.
Rember Bill Gates saying internet is not for normal user :mrgreen: