Which Browser do you use?

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Which web browser do you use?

Firefox
121
70%
Chrome
10
6%
Brave
10
6%
Opera
1
1%
Microsoft Edge
2
1%
Vivaldi
10
6%
Chromium
6
3%
Konqueror
0
No votes
Nyxt/Lynx
0
No votes
Other
14
8%
 
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#121 Post by Diesel330 »

Nili wrote: 2023-07-04 21:08 I ditched Firefox for Chromium, i see a much better performance on the web pages, and especially in the browser launch. It also seems to me that it is more lightweight versus Firefox.
Never ditch a browser for a few milliseconds more speed, there are other more important factors as you found out

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#122 Post by Nili »

Diesel330 wrote: 2023-08-04 18:00Never ditch a browser for a few milliseconds more speed, there are other more important factors as you found out
When i posted my last message about Browser, i had been away from Firefox for several months. The reasons of my leaving were not just a matter of speed regardless of what i wrote.
Chromium have that options "right-click" menu translate page, that feature it is necessary for me. I remember Firefox to have a similar one as add-on, but wasn't adapted like Chromium, perhaps i should take a look if there is anything new.

Browser speed launch or navigating settings wasn't only for those few ms speed, webpages opened much better and faster. Some websites that i visited even informed me about dated Firefox.
Undoubtedly Chromium is faster browser to me. But, Now that Manifest V3 it's done, there is no good reason i should continue with it.

Over the years i've used Firefox, firefox-fork or based much more than Chromium, Today i am even more close to FF.
I am very sure that many, many others will jump back over Firefox again after they have left for their own reasons.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#123 Post by steve_v »

Nili wrote: 2023-08-04 18:35Chromium have that options "right-click" menu translate page, that feature it is necessary for me.
FWIW I've used flagfox for this (and other useful shortcuts like traceroute and internet archive) for many years. While it isn't FOSS, my investigations (read: basic traffic analysis) make me fairly comfortable using it. YMMV of course.
Nili wrote: 2023-08-04 18:35Undoubtedly Chromium is faster browser to me. But, Now that Manifest V3 it's done, there is no good reason i should continue with it...
I am very sure that many, many others will jump back over Firefox again after they have left for their own reasons.
I suggest anyone remotely interested in maintaining a free and open web ditch chrome and derivatives as soon as possible. Manifest v3 is only the thin end of the wedge, and where that might be an attack on content blocking, widespread adoption of the likes of WEI will spell the end of any extension google doesn't approve of, and quite possibly many entire browsers as well.
Aside from slightly asinine "protests" (like mass-reporting the relevant github repos as malware :P), the only practical course I can see for end-users is to boycot browsers and websites that implement this technology, and to campaign for open-source chromium forks to do the same.
While there is probably not much we can do about the enshitification of the web in the long-run, I for one am not willing to go down without a fight. In this, google has now positioned itself as a clear and present threat... So much for "Do no evil", if you ever believed that tripe. :roll:
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#124 Post by Nili »

steve_v wrote: 2023-08-05 10:32 FWIW I've used flagfox for this (and other useful shortcuts like traceroute and internet archive) for many years. While it isn't FOSS, my investigations (read: basic traffic analysis) make me fairly comfortable using it. YMMV of course.
Thanks for the Flagfox extension, I didn't know anything about it, but the description seems interesting reading as it covers several areas and information.
steve_v wrote: 2023-08-05 10:32 I suggest anyone remotely interested in maintaining a free and open web ditch chrome and derivatives as soon as possible. Manifest v3 is only the thin end of the wedge, and where that might be an attack on content blocking, widespread adoption of the likes of WEI will spell the end of any extension google doesn't approve of, and quite possibly many entire browsers as well.
Aside from slightly asinine "protests" (like mass-reporting the relevant github repos as malware :P), the only practical course I can see for end-users is to boycot browsers and websites that implement this technology, and to campaign for open-source chromium forks to do the same.
While there is probably not much we can do about the enshitification of the web in the long-run, I for one am not willing to go down without a fight. In this, google has now positioned itself as a clear and present threat... So much for "Do no evil", if you ever believed that tripe. :roll:
Thanks for the WEI link, It clearly explains the intentions of Google corp which mostly i read about, i was almost fished out from Chromium due to pages works better on Chromium but that's not for the Firefox faults.
The webmaster or authors use Chrome/Chromium to test their pages mostly.

I managed to find out that Mozilla Firefox font rendering is more compact and aligned well, While Chromium it have an wide font rendering that i never liked. So, a plus for Firefox.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#125 Post by MrSteve »

Vivaldi as my main browser Firefox ESR as backup.
extensions. same on both except the dictionary.

one click java script toggle
google dictionary
cookie auto delete
malwarebytes browser guard
disable HTML5 autoplay
adblock plus
duckduckgo privacy essentials
tabs to the front
i dont care about cookies
gnome shell integration ...

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#126 Post by m4c-attack »

I use Floorp (fork of Firefox) and enjoy it.

With that said, this wknd I started using w3m and it is 'fun' to navigate the web w/ a PAGER-esque experience provided that you spend more time reading content than watching it

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#127 Post by bassplayer69 »

I use Vivaldi as my main browser and Waterfox as a backup.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#128 Post by bbbhltz »

For a long time I was all about qutebrowser. I could zip around the web lik crazy. But one week I managed to hurt my hand and started using a mouse again and ended up switching to Firefox-ESR. Now I use the FF from the Mozilla repo with BetterFox and some other easy tweaks and minimal extensions (uBO, uBlackList, Bitwarden, LibRedirect).

Dillo is my backup.

Sometimes I use Lynx or w3m.
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#129 Post by Gyokuro »

Firefox (ESR, Nightly) - other: Safari on my MacBook Pro (I hate Safari Plugins) therefore Firefox is my main browser on Mac OS. It is only for travel purpose - it is handy. However main/work laptop is with Debian.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#130 Post by Nili »

Back on Chrome, Exactly Unstable. My longevity in FF didn't last long since my above posts, on both Android and Linux, Firefox have higher memory and cpu usage versus Chrome.

Chrome is faster browser since the start of it, then to the usage.
Issued i had early with Chrome Fonts, i fixed by finding the correct fonts to use.
Issued with Manifest v3 fixed with uBOL. it's not like UBO, but good enough for my needs.
Dark mode enabled on "chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark" with such option, i don't need to install a third party such as Dark Reader.
Chrome translate feature from toolbar, menu(s), or from pages "Translate to X language" is it the best feature to me without any needs for third party.
chrome://flags and chrome://settings/ i find better manageable.
Chrome have more modern settings and much simpler stuff to operate.

I don't think that FF is worried about losing a user.
It contradicts some of the things i said above, but one some parts i was my mistake, the other is Chrome or Google regarding the monopoly, but i am nobody to fight, so i'm adapting and moving on....
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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#131 Post by unix_joe »

I recently switched to Vivaldi after using Mozilla stuff since the Milestone releases at the turn of the century.

It's pretty much the old Opera browser, but with the Blink engine. That means I can disable JavaScript everywhere and whitelist the sites I want in settings.

Something like, [*.]debian.net will whitelist JavaScript on all domains at debian.net. Or even simpler, [*.]gov will allow me to use most government websites without issue. And then I run uBlock Lite on top as well as Vivaldi's own built-in adblocker for the whitelisted sites.

So it's actually really light, because only a handful of sites are allowed to run JavaScript, and the ones that do are adblocked.

I appreciate the interface. I am on a 16:9 mobile workstation and the tab bar is a left-side panel.

There is also a free webmail service and Mastodon instance that Vivaldi runs, which are inconsequential, but at least Vivaldi is trying to build a community.

If Chrome is the Gnome of browsers, Vivaldi is the KDE. Options everywhere.

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#132 Post by arzgi »

You can use any browser you like, but be aware that Debian security patches cover only firefox-esr and chromiun. If you use something else, it is your own concern,

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Re: Which Browser do you use?

#133 Post by Trihexagonal »

Firefox-ESR

It's got the extensions I like to use, like NoScript.

The worst thing you can do surfing the web IMO is allow scripts to run globally.

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