[Testing - Trixie] SOLVED - [Testing - Trixie] Basic Commands Not Found! (They were there)

[limotux]

Sorry... some typos in the bash script!
So I deleted the content of this post.

[dilberts_left_nut]

It's the escaped (\) 'space#' that is the 'not found' command.
BTW that script is a spectacularly bad idea on testing.

[limotux]

It's the escaped (\) 'space#' that is the 'not found' command.
BTW that script is a spectacularly bad idea on testing.

Why is it a bad idea in Testing? It just updates/upgrades everything (I think)
Maybe I should remove the "full upgrade" part?

[wizard10000]

Maybe I should remove the "full upgrade" part?

At the very least.

You removed the script from your post so it'd unlikely anybody can help troubleshoot further.

[limotux]

Maybe I should remove the "full upgrade" part?

At the very least.

You removed the script from your post so it'd unlikely anybody can help troubleshoot further.

Sorry, I just didn't want to bother you.
Anyway, just for the sake of learning more, here is my script:

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#!/bin/bash
sudo apt-get clean && \
sudo apt update && \
sudo apt-get install -f && \
sudo apt full-upgrade -y && \
sudo apt autoremove --purge -y && \
sudo apt-get check && \
sudo apt-get autoclean

[wizard10000]

Coolness. Lets step through the script - I don't mean to sound harsh so please take my input as intended

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#!/bin/bash
sudo apt-get clean && \
sudo apt update && \
sudo apt-get install -f && \
sudo apt full-upgrade -y && \
sudo apt autoremove --purge -y && \
sudo apt-get check && \
sudo apt-get autoclean

apt-get clean clears your package cache, which means that if you need to reinstall the package will need to be re-downloaded if it's available. If a new package breaks something you'll have to jump through hoops to get hands on an old package. If you want to clear your package cache the autoclean in the last line is a much better idea since it will only remove packages that are no longer available in repositories. If you decide to keep apt-get clean than autoclean is unnecessary.

apt update is good.

apt-get install -f is generally unnecessary and IMO should be run if you detect an issue, not as a default.

apt full-upgrade -y and apt autoremove --purge -y - never, ever automate adding or removing packages in a development distribution so the -y on upgrade and autoremove is kind of a terrible idea because you need to be able to read apt's output and stop it if it offers to remove half your system.

Also, only run full-upgrade when you're there to monitor stuff as unlike apt upgrade, apt full-upgrade will remove packages which is particularly dangerous if you're using -y because you're running a development distribution and not everything is gonna work correctly every time. You'd be sitting there watching while Trixie breaks your stuff

apt-get check is unnecessary if you're doing upgrades as apt will check that stuff anyway.

apt autoclean we already mentioned - it's a better solution for most than apt clean.

Last, rather than adding seven sudos to your script why not just run the script as root and lose all the sudos?

I hope this helps and again, not trying to sound harsh here.

cheers -

[limotux]

Coolness. Lets step through the script - I don't mean to sound harsh so please take my input as intended

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#!/bin/bash
sudo apt-get clean && \
sudo apt update && \
sudo apt-get install -f && \
sudo apt full-upgrade -y && \
sudo apt autoremove --purge -y && \
sudo apt-get check && \
sudo apt-get autoclean

apt-get clean clears your package cache, which means that if you need to reinstall the package will need to be re-downloaded if it's available. If a new package breaks something you'll have to jump through hoops to get hands on an old package. If you want to clear your package cache the autoclean in the last line is a much better idea since it will only remove packages that are no longer available in repositories. If you decide to keep apt-get clean than autoclean is unnecessary.

apt update is good.

apt-get install -f is generally unnecessary and IMO should be run if you detect an issue, not as a default.

apt full-upgrade -y and apt autoremove --purge -y - never, ever automate adding or removing packages in a development distribution so the -y on upgrade and autoremove is kind of a terrible idea because you need to be able to read apt's output and stop it if it offers to remove half your system.

Also, only run full-upgrade when you're there to monitor stuff as unlike apt upgrade, apt full-upgrade will remove packages which is particularly dangerous if you're using -y because you're running a development distribution and not everything is gonna work correctly every time. You'd be sitting there watching while Trixie breaks your stuff

apt-get check is unnecessary if you're doing upgrades as apt will check that stuff anyway.

apt autoclean we already mentioned - it's a better solution for most than apt clean.

Last, rather than adding seven sudos to your script why not just run the script as root and lose all the sudos?

I hope this helps and again, not trying to sound harsh here.

cheers -

Really thank you very much @wizard10000 for your amazing clarification.
Thank you very much.

[wizard10000]

Glad to help. We were all new at this once and quite a few really patient people helped me