Or try Palemoon which is surpringly not in the voting list.tomazzi wrote:I've recently discovered that Firefox ESR v45 (wheezy), which is simply a spyware
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[Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Thanks.L_V wrote:Or try Palemoon which is surpringly not in the voting list.
I've heard about the PaleMoon in the past, but until now I haven't tried it. Until now ....

I'm writing this from PaleMoon v26.4.0_amd64 (Wheezy).
Many thanks to stevepusser for maintaining the repository for Wheezy - really, it saved me a lot of work needed to compile it from source.
Voted "other", now the comment:
Memory usage: typically ~25-70% less than Firefox (depending on how many tabs are opened, PM needs ~150MB for the start page)
CPU load: ~the same (after I've removed service links from FF)
Tests:
Acid3: FF: regression: 99/100, PaleMoon: 100/100 (really, the gecko engine is so mature, that this shouldn't happen...)
All other (html5) tests: FF gets better results, but actually works slower than PM: f.e.:
the Peacekeeper gives 2989 points to FF and only 2550 to PM - *but* all the test are working visually better/smoother in PaleMoon and the Goanna engine splits the workload better for all the CPU cores, while Gecko usually executes everything on a single core.
Single problem: Palemoon does not support h264 codec. I can live with this...
But: no links to google and mozilla spying services

Regards.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
I have been using Firefox since 2003-04. Oddly enough, and according to the release history (1), I used Firebird back then.
I do remember that Qute was the default theme (2), for I kept using it long after it had been replaced.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_release_history
2. https://arvidaxelsson.se/themes/qute/
I do remember that Qute was the default theme (2), for I kept using it long after it had been replaced.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_release_history
2. https://arvidaxelsson.se/themes/qute/
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
https://vivaldi.com is what i am using now. It`s pretty good I think. 

Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Other. I use Palemoon. Blazing fast.
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The Pale Moon 26.4.0 in my OBS repo still uses gstreamer1.0 after the 26.4.0.1 static binaries from PM reverted to 0.10, because of crashes in other distros with other versions of 1.0. I can get x.264 support in 26.4.0 by adding the various gstreamer1.0 good, bad, and ugly plugin packages, plus gstreamer1.0-libav. I don't think there's a config tweak necessary to enable the playback.
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Please, You have registered Your account in 2014 and this is Your first post? (#1)finnish_nemi wrote:https://vivaldi.com is what i am using now. It`s pretty good I think.
I think that You should already know that *closed source* solutions aren't working today...
I don't care about what happened in the Opera team - this is not my business. I know that they have/had good programmers, but this is a post-Snowden era: with closed sources, You can try the winblows forums ... and I whish You luck.
@ stevepusser:
again, thanks a lot for that repository.
I know that there's a problem with gstreamer, but I've mentioned this as a joke/hint - for people who are reading this and who absolutely need h264 codec

Best regards

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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Aren't working? Not sure about that; a lot of people use Google Chrome in Linux, and from what I understand, both Chrome and Vivaldi use code from Chromium but also use proprietary code, seems like sorta along the same lines.tomazzi wrote:I think that You should already know that *closed source* solutions aren't working today...finnish_nemi wrote:https://vivaldi.com is what i am using now. It`s pretty good I think.
Well, I tried Vivaldi and liked it a lot, came away impressed. But then I un-installed it. Because it isn't open source. Lol. But for anyone whose only concern is that the software is "freeware" I'd say Vivaldi is definitely worth a look. Very nice web browser, IMO.
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Chrome is basically just Chromium + pepperflash + pdf reader, Vivaldi takes the initial source in a much further direction. Neither Chrome or Vivaldi is particularly safe to use from a security/surveillance perspective though.MALsPa wrote:Aren't working? Not sure about that; a lot of people use Google Chrome in Linux, and from what I understand, both Chrome and Vivaldi use code from Chromium but also use proprietary code, seems like sorta along the same lines.tomazzi wrote:I think that You should already know that *closed source* solutions aren't working today...finnish_nemi wrote:https://vivaldi.com is what i am using now. It`s pretty good I think.
Well, I tried Vivaldi and liked it a lot, came away impressed. But then I un-installed it. Because it isn't open source. Lol. But for anyone whose only concern is that the software is "freeware" I'd say Vivaldi is definitely worth a look. Very nice web browser, IMO.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
I use Seamonkey these days. I used to use firefox (iceweasel as it was called in debian until recently) but they kept making loads of really annoying changes to the user interface, and I eventually had enough.
I've been a mozilla user since late 2002 (Netscape 7 until 2004, Firefox from then until last year) so I feel right at home in Seamonkey.
I've been a mozilla user since late 2002 (Netscape 7 until 2004, Firefox from then until last year) so I feel right at home in Seamonkey.
Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Regrettably, I am now using Firefox. Yes, it is bloated like a pig ready for the slaughter house, but many websites mandate the use of Javascipt, otherwise almost nothing appears. Using Palemoon I was having severe latency problems editing text in Facebook. Some may scold me for using it, but I can only get a glimpse of my nephews and nieces through it.
Lately, I am having problems using my T4400 based computer to the extent that I am considering to buy a more recent one. As already said, many sites these days are very aggressive to require Javascript. It seems the days when internet browsing was not badly affected without Javascript are over.
Lately, I am having problems using my T4400 based computer to the extent that I am considering to buy a more recent one. As already said, many sites these days are very aggressive to require Javascript. It seems the days when internet browsing was not badly affected without Javascript are over.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
I just stumbled on to this just now :by JLloyd13 »http://forums.debian.net/posting.php?mo ... 6#pr623651 Chrome is basically just Chromium + pepperflash + pdf reader, Vivaldi takes the initial source in a much further direction. Neither Chrome or Vivaldi is particularly safe to use from a security/surveillance perspective though.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
what I am about to say is really obvious, and I am not pretending that it is something really novel or a solution, but in case some one has not noticed, many sites also allow you to access them through lighter versions that are primarily designed for mobile devices (like m.facebook.com). You can reach these pages even with a browser where the user agent does not report "mobile" to the page by adding the m in front of the url. Often, but not always these "mobile" versions of such heavy pages are significantly stripped of javascript bloat.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
1. Firefox
2. Palemoon
3. Tor Browser Bundle
4. Dillo
2. Palemoon
3. Tor Browser Bundle
4. Dillo
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
NoScript, uMartix, uBlock Origin, & Privacy Settings are your friends.edbarx wrote:Regrettably, I am now using Firefox. Yes, it is bloated like a pig ready for the slaughter house, but many websites mandate the use of Javascipt, otherwise almost nothing appears. Using Palemoon I was having severe latency problems editing text in Facebook. Some may scold me for using it, but I can only get a glimpse of my nephews and nieces through it.
Lately, I am having problems using my T4400 based computer to the extent that I am considering to buy a more recent one. As already said, many sites these days are very aggressive to require Javascript. It seems the days when internet browsing was not badly affected without Javascript are over.

Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
back to palemoon, after being disappointed by firefox again.
works a treat on both my archlinux install and antiX, not sure about debian stable?
all my usual addons work - either the original addon is compatible, or there's a replacement, or a workaround listed.
works a treat on both my archlinux install and antiX, not sure about debian stable?
all my usual addons work - either the original addon is compatible, or there's a replacement, or a workaround listed.
Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
Epiphany, actually. I like that it's very bare-bones, slim and quick, and I love the bookmark system (haven't found anything like it elsewhere). I keep Firefox and Chrome installed for corner cases, but Epiphany has definitely come out of the hole where it resided a few years ago. I guess I'll have to check out palemoon, though, after skimming this thread.
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Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
I'm also using Pale Moon. I like it because it's lighter than Firefox and the Vimperator add-on works flawlessly. Honestly, that's the main thing that is keeping me in the Firefox/clone world. For a Qt-based browser, Qupzilla is a really good choice, except for not having something like Vimperator as far as I know.
Re: [Poll] What is your favorite Web Browser?
I voted Chromium, but I've switched to using Pale Moon since reading comments in this thread and elsewhere.